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Triumph
Name: George
Subject: Exhaust problems
Question: I have a '73 GT6 with a '71 TR6 2.5L engine. It's got dual 175 CD-2
Stromberg carbs. When I run the engine, the exhaust spits out oil and it seems
like theres an awful lot of fumes and smoke, even when idling. I briefly
mentioned it to my mechanic and he said I should get a performance exhaust to
increase the backpressure on the engine. (I havent had him thoroughly inspect
the problem). What's you input?
Answer: Hi George,
If the smoke is blue it is burning oil. If it blows more blue smoke when
accelerating it is either a stopped up crankcase vent system or bad rings or
over filled with oil. Also you need to check to see that the oil is not
diluted with gasoline.
No type of exhaust system is going to help the problem and performance exhaust
systems decrease back pressure not increase it.
To test the rings you need to do a Dry and a Wet compression test. If your
mechanic does not know the procedure, you need to find a mechanic who does.
Let me know the readings of both tests.
Howard
Name: Tim
Subject: 1981 TR7 spark plugs
Question: I know the firing order is 1342 but I don't know which one is which
on the distributor and on the engine
Answer: Hi Tim,
You can't depend on the location of the distributor shaft being where the
factory put it so you need to use a standard method which works on any engine.
Pull the plugs and the distributor cap and either put a wrench on the front
crank pulley or just put the car in 5th gear (brake off) and have someone push
the car forward while you put your thumb over #1 plug hole. as soon as you
feel the pressure of compression stop and insert a coat hangar or welding rod
in the plug hole and slowly roll or bump the car forward until the piston is
at TDC. If you pass it just push the car back a little. You are then at TDC of
the compression stroke and the rotor in the dist. is pointing to #1. Then just
plug the rest of the wires in the firing order around the cap in the direction
the rotor turned when you were pushing the car forward. Then set the ignition
timing. This works on all engines that use a distributor.
Howard
Name: Jim
Subject: Triumph cam chain oil slinger
Question: I am re-assembling a Triumph 1147 engine and forgot which way the
cam cam chain oil slinger should face when re-installing it on the crankshaft. Can
you tell be which way it should go or does it not make a difference?
Answer: Hi Jim,
The slinger tries to keep some of the oil away from the front seal and most
engines have the cup of the slinger face the oil seal (forward) I have opened
up many engines that had it turned around and did not seem to cause a problem.
The early Spitfire has the cup face forward as most do.
Howard
Name: Colin
Subject: windows
Question: Hi,
I'm also having problems with the windows on a TR 6 Iv'e just bought. They
seem to wind down OK but are so stiff when I try to wind them up I'm afraid
I'm going to break off the winder handles! Any ideas?
Answer: Hi Colin,
It could be several problems but first remove the door panel and lube the
glass to runner area with a can of clear silicone spray. If that don't help,
look at the glass as you try to raise it to see if either the front or the
rear of the glass is trying to go up first causing to glass to bind. Also
examine the tracks to see if they are worn out and need replacing. If the
glass is going up front first or rear first and binding you will need to
loosen the bolts holding the assembly and move it which ever direction makes
it align better. There is not much free play in the mounts but sometimes just
enough to get the window to move up straight.
Howard
Name: stan
Subject: gt6 distributor drive
Question: Hi Howard,
I have a 69 gt6, last summer I experienced some problems with my gt6. It
wouldnt start, or run. I finally figured it out that the
distributor drive had slipped a gear or two on the cam shaft. I
have since gotten it running again by changing the distributor wiring to the
plugs accordingly. I was told that I will likely need to pull the
motor to replace the gear for the distributor and oil pump. Is this
correct? Hopefully it is this gear that is worn and not the cam
shaft! Thanks for your advice. Stan
Answer: Hi Stan,
The distributor drive gear can not slip a tooth unless the gear teeth are
broken off of the cam or the oil pump drive gear (which also drives the dist.)
You can look at it by removing the dist. and the distributor mount (two nuts)
and with a light you can see if the gear teeth are stripped off or broken. You
can even lift the gear up out of it's recess and examine it. (Note how the
dist drive slot is oriented so you can reinstall it in the correct position.
This can be done without removing the engine, However, if the cam gear is
stripped or broken you best remove the engine as metal is most likely all
through the engine and it needs to be cleaned out and damage to other parts
examined.
Howard
Subject: gt6 distributor drive
Question: Hi Howard,
I have a 69 gt6, last summer I experienced some problems with my gt6. It
wouldnt start, or run. I finally figured it out that the
distributor drive had slipped a gear or two on the cam shaft. I
have since gotten it running again by changing the distributor wiring to the
plugs accordingly. I was told that I will likely need to pull the
motor to replace the gear for the distributor and oil pump. Is this
correct? Hopefully it is this gear that is worn and not the cam
shaft! Thanks for your advice. Stan
Answer: Hi Stan,
The distributor drive gear can not slip a tooth unless the gear teeth are
broken off of the cam or the oil pump drive gear (which also drives the dist.)
You can look at it by removing the dist. and the distributor mount (two nuts)
and with a light you can see if the gear teeth are stripped off or broken. You
can even lift the gear up out of it's recess and examine it. (Note how the
dist drive slot is oriented so you can reinstall it in the correct position.
This can be done without removing the engine, However, if the cam gear is
stripped or broken you best remove the engine as metal is most likely all
through the engine and it needs to be cleaned out and damage to other parts
examined.
Howard
Name: samuel garrett
Subject: engine problems
Question: my friend has a 65 triumph herald, with a 1980 1500cc spitfire. he
is currently having issues with how it idles. it'll be either too fast or too
slow. my question is how do you measure the compression? And where should it
be? if you could contact me by my e-mail address i would greatly appreciate
it, also any info on how to make it run smoother and a good place to look for
parts, would also be of some great use.
your motor fan,
metal sam
Answer: Hi Metal Sam,(Samuel)
Compression is measured with a compression gauge (not expensive) and the
readings should be 125 to 165 PSI on all cylinders with little difference
between cylinders.
Be sure to hold the throttle open when doing a compression test. Parts can be
purchased from Moss Motors, Victoria British, The Roadster Factory and Engel
Imports. There are many others but those come to mind. As for making it run
smooth, the compression test is the first step. Let me know what reading you
get.
I would be glad to respond via e-mail if you gave me an e-mail address.
Let me know about the compression test results.
Howard
Name: Thomas Hough
Subject: Footwell Flooding..
Question: QUESTION: Well my footwell isn't really flooding, I have a 1500
Spitfire, brought it with a refurbished engine but needed spraying. I've just
completed this myself, but whilst being sat outside in the wet for 2 months
the drivers side foot well has quite abit of water in.
It's definately not clutch/brake fluid.. There are run marks behind
the pedals suggesting it is coming from that area.. I cannot see any holes and
there certainly isn't any rust..
I would appreciate your thoughts on the matter..
ANSWER: Hi Thomas,
The only way you will find your water leak is to dry it out and set up a
sprinkler over the car while you lay inside with a light and backtrack where
it is coming from then look under the hood if it really is running down the
pedals. You may have to put sealant on the rubber boots over each pedal and
look at the hood to body fit and install a extra soft seal on the edge of the
cowling.
Howard
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QUESTION: Thanks for such a quick response what is meant by cowling?
Answer: The body part that the hood mates up to in front of the windscreen.
That is an aircraft term.
Name: JARED
Subject: 1975 TR6 clutch
Question: QUESTION: We have a 1975 tr6 in our shop for clutch problems. The
issue is that the clutch lever on the transmission is about 1 1/4" away
from the pin hole on the slave cylinder by the time it contacts the pressure
plate. It is to the point where the piston popped out of the slave when the
clutch was disengaged. this is all with a brand new clutch kit installed. Is
there an updated release bearing carrier or transmission front cover?? Any
help will greatly be appreciated. Thanks.
ANSWER: Hi Jared,
No modification should be necessary when installing a new clutch.
First make sure you don't have any forward/aft movement in your crank shaft.
Then you need to look at the fingers on the pressure plate to make sure they
are not too far in, meaning the wrong pressure plate or wrong disk was
installed.
The TR-6 is also noted for the bolt that pinches the fork to the shaft not in
correctly can give you the extra clearance. Was the fork removed from the
shaft while the trans was out? Check the outside arm on the shaft also.
Howard
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QUESTION: The clutch kit was installed at another shop so to be sure it was
correct we ordered a new kit ourselves and it was identical to the one
installed in the car. the shift fork was cracked and the shaft was worn so we
replaced both with brand new parts along with a new pinch bolt. We found an
article that talked about such a problem and it had part numbers for a new
style bearing carrier and tranny front cover. The new front cover has an
overall length of 4.25" ( part# 154975) whereas the old one has an
overall length of 3.22"( the one we have). The new style carrier has a
part# of 154976. the trans has a part# of 28570. is this even the right trans.
there are so many unkowns and this car has been to several shops
before us for this problem.
Answer: Hi Jared,
Your part numbers did not do me any good, but I can help you track down the
problem. This is what I would do if I had that car in my shop. First I would
determine if the fault was inside the bell housing or outside the bell
housing. Look at the geometry of the lever and push rod. Meaning, ideally the
operating rod (rod that goes into the slave cylinder) should be 90 degrees to
the lever it is pushing when it is about half way out of it's travel. This is
easier to check than it sounds. Push the lever forward until the release
bearing hits the pressure plate fingers and hold it there. Place a long rod of
any kind into the slave so it is in position like the real operating rod would
be. Now look at the degrees of angle between the lever and the rod. It should
be more than 90 deg. on the slave cylinder side. If the slave piston were to
push the rod out and move the lever a little, the angle between the lever and
the rod would approach 90 deg. If that is how it is or is close to that, all
you need to do to correct the problem is to lengthen the rod and forget what
the cause was.
If however the lever to rod is less than 90 deg, then the problem is inside.
But first look at the lever to see if it could be turned around by mistake on
it's shaft.
If you have to go back inside, look at the fork and the pinch bolt to see if
the fork can be put on backwards. I don't remember if the pinch bolt will
allow that or not. Look at the fingers of the diaphragm pressure plate to see
if they are too far in (compressed) This can make you run out of travel on the
release bearing and slider and the same outside. The distance between the face
of the release bearing and the surface that the fork contacts on the bearing
carrier is critical and you may want to measure that distance and call Moss
Motors and ask to measure their's to see if you have the correct part.
That would be very difficult to alter. I know, because I just had to do it on
my MG conversion using a Olds V-8 engine with a Mazda RX-7 turbo pressure
plate with a Triumph TR-8 disk and 5 spd. Triumph TR-7 gearbox.
It sounds like someone back in one of the shops has mismatched some of the
components unless the fork or the outside lever can be turned around
backwards.
Let me know what you find on the degree measurement you find on the outside
lever and pushrod.
Howard
Name: Dennis
Subject: 72 Spitfire fuel system
Question: My '72 Spitfire is incredibly difficult to start...many cranks and
starter fluid and tweaking distributor needed. Once warmed up, runs fine.
Timing chain replaced correctly. Ignition tuneup and timing does
not seem to help. Carb rebuilt twice, temp compensator taken apart
and re-assembled did not know how to set, guessed.
Answer: Hi Dennis,
When an engine will not start you need to look for what is missing with no
thought of what could be wrong. All piston spark ignited engines need only
three items to start and run, Compression, fire & fuel. There are
conditions on each but all three are easy to test. Compression can be easily
tested with a compression gauge and the readings should be about 125 to 165
PSI and little difference between cylinders. Be sure to do the tests with the
throttle open.
Fire (spark) must be close to the correct time and be strong enough. Timing
must be set to factory specs and not altered unless the engine is highly
modified. If there is still a sticker under the hood, those specs over rides
what any manual states. The firing order must be correct too, which must be
correct as you say it runs ok once running.
As for a strong spark, you can tell roughly by just removing a plug and put
the wire on the plug and lay the plug on a metal part of the engine and spin
the engine over and watch the spark. It should be a thick blue spark. (not in
the sun light)
Fuel must be available to the combustion chamber in roughly the correct
mixture for starting. This is much richer than the running mixture. An
enrichment device on the side of the carb supplies the fuel for starting. If
an engine does not start and requires spraying starter fluid or something like
WD-40 into the intake to get it to start, then that enrichment device (choke)
is not operating correctly.
Tell me what the compression readings are and set the timing to specs and if
the spark is a wide blue spark look at the choke. Is it the older manual choke
or is it the coolant operated choke?
Let me know,
Howard
Name: Hector
Subject: Triumph TR7
Question: QUESTION: I have had difficulty in getting my 1979 Triumph TR7 to pass
a CA smog check. It has the dual stormberg carbs.
It fails the CO check. The mechanics say it's running to rich. No one so far has
be able to adjust the CO to acceptable levels.
Need help.
I am willing to do the repairs my self at this point.
Thank you.
ANSWER: Hi Hector,
CO is fuel mixture but you need to state what the CO was and what is the CA
limit. It should be on the report sheet. If it is just out by a small amount you
should try to adjust the needles with a 3mm Allen wrench down in the center of
the oil after removing the top caps with the piston on the ends. If it is off a
lot, check the coolant operated choke, they are prone to failure.
Other items to look at are float chamber venting
and broken diaphragms on the pistons.
Howard
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QUESTION: Follow up. Unfortunately I don't have the report with me.
I'll have to go by my memory.
Limit, I think was about 2 and the reading I was getting for CO was about 8.3 to
9.
Thank you again.
Hector
ANSWER: Sounds more like a coolant operated choke problem. A common fault on
that car.
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QUESTION: I was able to find some illustrations on the choke mechanism and it
seems as though the problem may be the the Thermostat bulb within the choke
mechanism. That being said, I researched the part and found that it is no longer
available or manufactured. If so, can the choking mechanism be by passed or is
there a source for replacement that I was not able find.
Thank you again,
Hector.
Answer: Try this first, Remove the bulb and you will see a pin goes into a
socket to operate and take the choke to the off position. Most of the time wax
in the bulb leaks out and as you say it is no longer available. Find a small
ball bearing that just fits into the socket and then install the pin in on the
ball. This will extend the life of the choke for a time. In the mean time check
with Moss Motors for a complete choke conversion to a manual choke system. I
think they use to have one.
Howard
Name: mark
Subject: stromberg rebuilt
Question: Howard, 1972 spitfire IV When do you know it is time to rebuilt the
carb? What kind of issues start to happen? Thanks Mark
Answer: Sorry Mark, there is no sequence of events that tells you it is time to
rebuild a carburetor other than when you find a carburetor is at fault while
diagnosing a problem. Dozens of things can go wrong with a carburetor making it
necessary to repair it.
Howard
Name: Bert Foote
Subject: TR7 Heater Matrix Replacement
Question: Where can I find some really good istructions for removing the Heater
Coil and Installing a new one. I have a Haynes Manual. Not that
good. Have the Facia partially out.
Answer: Hi Bert,
Unfortunately, they just about built the car around the heater core and just
about everything has to come out to get to it. Send me your e-mail address and I
will e-mail you what I have on it.
Howard